LHA £15 top up Uturn

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    Julian Hobson
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    Channel 4 news “exclusive” last night said the proposed ditching of the £15 top up from april 2010 had itself been ditched.

    http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/ministers+ditch+housing+benefit+cuts/3345097

    #97304
    Julian Hobson
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    #97305
    Ozzies Mate
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    Most of our tenants never had the opportunity to ‘shop around’ as most rents matched LHA rates straight away

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    Anonymous
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    “most rents matched LHA rates straight away”

    Or if not, they do now.

    And a proper one-bedroom flat attracts the same HB as a crudely-converted bedsit with shower and toilet on stair landing (albeit for the claimant’s sole use). A newly-retired couple who have rented the flat for years now have 13 weeks to find a bedsit!

    #97307
    Julian Hobson
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    just a quick update on the proposal to remove the £15 in LHA. The following is a Hansard extract from PMQ’s on the 11th November.

    Bear in mind when reading the bold bit (my emphasis) that the £15 issue had not until now formed part of the green paper consultation, it was a completely separate measure aimed at reducing the cost to the treasury.

    [i:5c60cb8a2d]Mr. Clegg: How is it possible, in the middle of a recession, with unemployment at 2.5 million and rising, that this Government-a Labour Government-should be planning to change local housing allowance rules to take £15 a week from some of the poorest people in Britain?

    The Prime Minister: This Government have done more to take people out of poverty than any Government, and we have taken people out of poverty by giving them tax credits and improved housing benefits. I do not believe that the figures that the right hon. Gentleman has given me are accurate. This is a Labour Government who want to help people into work and help people who are in work.

    Mr. Clegg: That response beggars belief-they are the Prime Minister’s figures. How would he feel if he was on £80 a week and the Government came along and said, “We’re going to take £15 of that away”? This is going to hit up to 300,000 of the poorest people in this country and it will not save the Treasury any money. It took him months to do the right thing-the U-turn-on the 10p tax rate fiasco. Will he now look at this measure, stop it, and stop it now? Will he do that-yes or no?

    The Prime Minister: This is the man who talked about savage cuts in public services. What we are trying to do is to reform housing benefit in a way that helps those who are most in need. What we are also trying to do is to use our resources to help those who are unemployed get back into work. [b:5c60cb8a2d]If the right hon. Gentleman is talking about proposals on housing benefit, he is talking about proposals for consultation-no decision has been made[/b:5c60cb8a2d].[/i:5c60cb8a2d]

    Either Gordon knows nothing about this (he must have had his ears or eyes shut or have been very busy!) or it will now form part of that consultation and if so I can’t see it happening in 2010, but who knows.

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    Anonymous
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    I think he wasn’t properly briefed and tried to make his prepared answer fit the question, even though it’s really a complete non sequitur.

    I wouldn’t have thought that getting rid of the £15 needs to be included in any green paper as it does not require new primary legislation. In legislative terms it is a small detail.

    I think the PM can be excused for not having that kind of micro-knowledge at his fingertips. Most departmental ministers only know what their civil servants have briefed them about that day and, since his role is wider than any single department, Gordon operates is at an even coarser grade of granularity.

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    Julian Hobson
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    I agree peter but in the present climate do you think Nick Clegg would let Gordon get away with “unitentionally misleading the house” or even intentionally, either way if the £15.00 doesn’t form part of the consultation I think we can all sit back and watch the fur fly. Nick Clegg now has a commitment that removing the £15.00 top up will not happen without some form of consultation, I can’t see how to interpret it any other way. That will be picked up by CRISIs and others that have jumped on this, all the detractors are right, there is no saving to the treasury, L/L’s will simply increase their rents.

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