30 Hour Element WTC

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    Julian Hobson
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    Example:

    Single customer receives Statutory Sick Pay and therefore entitled to £5.00 earnings disregard, so you would have thought that they would be classed as in Remunerative work?

    Many IT systems (well ours at least) drive the Earnings Disregard from Hours Worked (hence we put in 37 hours). This means that the £11.90 (subject to recent announcements that it is wrong anyway) 30 Hour element WTC is disregarded from SSP in addition to the £5.00, but reg 4(6) of the HB regs excludes them from the now ammended Schedule 4 p16(2)(b)(i).

    Is this as everyone else understands it and what might an SX3 solution be ?

    #756
    Julian Hobson
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    I’ve just been told that in SX3, SSP code is set up as earned income so that the £5.00 would continue to be disregarded if hours worked are removed. Removing the hours worked should remove the £11.90.

    Is this correct ?

    #757
    Mark
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    I assume you mean Schedule 3 (not 4). As far as your question goes I don’t see the problem. Sx3 will aply the normal earned income disregard (i.e. £5/10/25, etc) to any income that you have set up as earned income. I assume you have the EI code for this? The number of hours worked that you enter has nothing to do with whether the standard earned income disregard is applied.

    As far as applying reg 4(6) goes I don’t see a problem there either. If someone starts getting SSP you can just reinput this as earned income with the hours worked below 16. It won’t let you input zero hours unfortunately but if you enter 1.00 (for example) this would work fine. The standard earned income disregard will be applied and the 30hr disregard will not be applied unless the WTC30+ code is present. This would be correct.

    What did you think to my earlier suggestion about the new capital codes?

    #758
    Julian Hobson
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    yes Schedule 3.

    Thanks for your solution. Am I right in thinking that the 30 hour disregard would be applied in a case where there was earned income and Remunerative work of at least 30hours irrespective of whether WTC30+ code is entered. This is what I read should happen.

    Thanks for the capital stuff, we are going to do it your way.

    #759
    Mark
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    Yes – earned income with 30hrs worked p/w or more will award the 30hr disregard regardless of whether the WTC30+ income code is used. There are still some other fixes to be applied by Sx3 to this whole area though that are promised in the next version.

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