Claimant caring for a non-dependant.

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    Darren W
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    I have a claim where the claimant is caring for another adult who lives in her property. There is no relationship between the two and the other adult is not a joint tenant and does not pay rent.

    However the claimant is paid £250 a week for looking after the other adult. My understanding of the regulations is that since the non-dependant does not fail within the groups where a non-dep deduction is not made, then we need to take a non-dep deduction and include the £250 as earned income for the claimant.

    Can anyone see why this would not be right?

    #7878
    David
    Participant

    Two thoughts:
    Are you sure that the £250 doesn’t include a rental element as part of the looking after process?
    Are you sure clmt is an employed person, or are payments voluntary in nature?

    #7879
    Darren W
    Participant

    The £250 is all wages for which they receive pay slips. There is no rental liability as such at all. Or at least no formal one.

    #7880
    David
    Participant

    In which case, I agree with your first posting!

    #7881
    Anonymous
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    Unusual situation. Para 21 of Schedule 5 says that any payment received from a non-dependant is disregarded from the claimant’s income other than earnings – obviously, to avoid double counting. The non-dep deduction is supposed to account for the non-dep’s contribution. But in this case, the income from the non-dependant is superficially being paid as earnings, and there is no corresponding disregard from earnings.

    The only thing I might query is whether these are truly earnings. At £250 a week, the non-dep should be paying employer’s NI contributions and making PAYE deductions: is this the case?

    If not, it might be more realistic to interpret the payments as being payments from a boarder or subtenant for accommodation plus keep and deal with them that way. The person making the payments would not be a non-dep in that event – it would just be income. On the other hand, if you feel that the arrangement falls short of being a commercial boarder/subtenant, then you would still have a non-dependant with a deduction only and no income to consider.

    #7882
    Darren W
    Participant

    The £250 is paid by the non-dep’s daughter and the payslips show that they are paying tax and NI on the full amount. The problem at the moment is that the situation came to light as the result of a fraud investigation. This means that trying to get the full picture / story is proving hard because they are weary of getting themselves in any more trouble.

    #7883
    Kevin D
    Participant

    Blame this gem of wickedness on the heat…. 😈

    The clmt (& others) *may* be inclined to be more cooperative if it is pointed out that the LA can draw inferences…..

    Regards

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