CTR Testing 6.7

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  • #45224
    Louise_harro
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    In version 4 of the CTR guide for 6.7. Its states if on migration I run it as report'N' it can only be run once and then roll back of the test system is required if needs running again.

    Because I am testing the CTR scheme (again) before the year end testing starts then this is all based on a copy of the precepts from 2012/13 and running through it again as per the last test in 6.6.1.1. So then after that we go into the year end testing and the real precepts will get loaded into test. When the real precepts get loaded and I go into yr end testing, does the system have to be rolled back before the year end testing happens OR because the real precepts have been loaded will I be able to migrate claims again? I feel like Im testing the CTR scheme about 900 times!

    If I am reading the release notes right, I think that I will test CTR (again) for the 6.7 release and then before year end is tested I will have to roll back the test system because claims can only be migrated once and ensure before I do this that I have set all the parameters again? I think my head is about to fall off. Any ideas? Lou 

    #127240
    trishc
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    CTRMIG will only convert your claims once, so if you dont have a clone of your DB between release upgrades then you wont need to run CTRMIG again. If you’re changing your params, just rerun RRV102- the trial calculation job then CTRCHK001 to get the comparison.

    Personally I would have clone done ready for YE testing before the real precepts are loaded, partly because then I have to do all the CTR stuff in TEST just as I will have to in LIVE.

    You are reading the notes right. If you havent had a clone since 6.6.1.1, then for 6.7 run CTRLOADRULES then RRV102 then CTRCHK001. If you then want to go straight into YE testing, you will have to run the extra script to remove the 2013 precepts that were copied by script at 6.6.1.1 so you can input the real ones, then follow the YE guide.
    Like I say, I’m having a refresh before YE testing so I dont accidentally miss anything out.

    (Wearing both my hats for this answer – NG Testing Analyst and WLDC System Admin.)
    Hope this helps.
    Trish

    #127250
    Louise_harro
    Participant

    Hi Trish,

    That is really helpful. Im not changing any parameters (just re-checking them), just need to remap a couple of the income codes and check if 6.7 has fixed a couple of issues it says it has. So I think what you have explained is once 6.7 is in test, to run the CTRLOADRULES again, then RRV102 again and then CTCHK001 again as per 6.6.1.1. Take a clone (just in case), run the script to remove the precepts then, hand over to the year end guide…

    Have I got what you where explaining?

    Thank-you again so much for your advice. Sooo appreciated :party:

    #127252
    trishc
    Participant

    You have indeed. thats just what I meant. I only understand this cos I’ve been at Northgate since September, otherwise I’d be in the same boat as you.
    Mind – I am jealous you can hand system testing over to someone else for YE… I spend 2 days at my “home” authority and have been writing my test plans for YE since Christmas Eve….

    #127253
    Louise_harro
    Participant

    Trish, you are a star and thank-you for your help. Fab to get insider info from a Northgate person. Good luck with your year end :crown:

    Lou

    #127348
    Dawnie
    Participant

    Hi all

    we are getting in a tizzy over this – can I confirm our understanding is ok?

    We are not taking the default scheme so have switched it to FALSE in CONTROL

    We do not have a vulnerable scheme for WA people

    We have a 92% maximum liability so we have changed this parameter in BASE in the vulnerable scheme and Working Age schemes 5 and 6 – we made sure PEN was at 0.00

    when we ran the RRV102 we get differences for all CTB claims and not just the pensioner ones?

    HELP?

    thanks
    dawn

    #127373
    Anonymous
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    I haven’t looked at this recently but shouldn’t BASE have the same parameters as the default scheme, against which all your other ones are compared (via the parameters you choose)? If you leave 100% liability in BASE you won’t get the discrepancies. RRV102 is trying to find the few cases where the calculation hasn’t transferred across correctly. When the calculation is done for real your WA schemes will be used.

    #127379
    Louise_harro
    Participant

    Dawn,

    Sorry cant help on that one, we are using the default scheme 🙁

    Louise

    #127395
    trishc
    Participant

    PM’d you Dawnie.

    #127452
    Dawnie
    Participant

    Hi all , thanks for the help but we still have problems – we had a few suggested ways of dealing with this but we have left it with NG – we have 6.7 and an oracle upgrade on our test system and we don’t know if the problem is in the software.

    Would help if any other NG users could say if they have successfully testing scheme changes for CTR

    thanks
    dawn

    #127456
    trishc
    Participant

    Does me saying I’ve done it for my home authority and it was ok make you more confident?

    #127457
    Dawnie
    Participant

    yes Trish! we must be thick cos we certainly can’t do it and we don’t know why! – we tried everything you said but no luck. We have the upgrade to 6.7 this weekend and we will try again with a new clone of live on 28th. we have NG consultant coming in on Tuesday so if we can’t do it I am sure they will take us through it.

    thanks for your support though

    dawn

    #127507
    trishc
    Participant

    Glad you’ve got someone coming in to help you. It is a bit complicated if you havent got the time to spend digesting everything before you have a go. Mind you a fresh clone should help. Hope it all goes well for you.

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