DCLG LCTS Event – London 21 November

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  • #43871
    Jon__Blackwell
    Participant

    From HB Direct 131

    "Following the success of its event in August, DCLG is hosting another event for local authorities on 21 November in London. The agenda is still to be finalised but will likely include discussion sessions on revising schemes after consultation, calculating the council tax base, as well as an update from DCLG. Anyone wishing to attend the event should contact"

    Natasha.Trinidade@communities.gsi.gov.uk

    #124760
    Dawnie
    Participant

    its full! not all LA’s got an invite. I’m on a reserve list and they are trying to find an alternative venue to meet demand

    dawn

    #124769
    markg
    Participant

    where have you got HB Direct 131 from? It’s not even on DWP website yet.

    #124770
    markg
    Participant

    cancel that, it’s on this site!! Derrrrrrrrrr

    #124774
    peterdelamothe
    Keymaster

    Plus DCLG (and DWP) will have staff all day at our London conference on 28 January. You cant apply for the fund til 1 February 2013 and I suspect policy will not have firmed til closer to then….

    #124801
    ghita
    Keymaster

    We realise that not everyone gets to see the HB Directs so we put up ALL HB Directs within a few mins of their release! If in doubt, give me a call…

    #124807
    ghita
    Keymaster

    As I was saying… the amended version given out is on the site 🙂

    #125316
    Jon__Blackwell
    Participant

    Did anyone attend this event? Was any useful information forthcoming?

    Jon

    #125325
    LouP
    Participant

    I didn’t attend but heard that most questions weren’t answered and were taken away (never to be heard of again?!). They did confirm that there would be no redistribution of any Pickles Pot money that goes unclaimed.

    #125337
    peterdelamothe
    Keymaster

    I have been sent the slides; this caught my eye. To me it misses the point:

    “Individuals may appeal to the Valuation Tribunal, after they have been through the local authority’s own complaints procedure, if they think that the billing authority has got its calculations wrong, or misapplied its own rules”.

    Yes I know…what if the appeal is about the mandatory regs etc; what has a complaint got to do with it?

    I have asked Ghita to put the slides on hbinfo somewhere.

    #125341
    Tinab
    Participant

    Peter

    The slides include the error that was pointed out – DCLG agreed that a complaint didn’t have anything to do with it – they meant appeal.
    Interestingly quite a few raised the point of the time limit (or not) within CT at present – DCLG response was that they would note the concern but that really it was down to LA’s to make representations to Ministers regarding the need for any time limits to be introduced….
    Tina

    #125346
    peterdelamothe
    Keymaster

    Thanks Tina…would have been good if DCLG had corrected that error then.

    So in 2019, a claimant can appeal against their CT bill because “my human rights were not considered following the recent case of xxxxx”. Yes I see…..

    #125357
    peterdelamothe
    Keymaster
    #125367
    LouP
    Participant

    Slide 13 of the LCTS update presentation gives the first criteria for the Transition Grant as being a maximum 8.5% liability cap for those who would be entitled to 100% support under the default scheme for 2013-14 rather than those currently receiving 100% CTB as it was worded in the paper published 18.10.12. Is this a movement of the goalposts?

    #125385
    Julian Hobson
    Participant

    I didn’t attend but know a man who did.

    Prescribed requirement regs should be out now (expected yesterday) to be laid on the 27th November. Default regs will be laid on the 7th December.

    Couple of observations !

    The autumn statement is made on the 5th december so will the prescribed requirements regs be followed immediately by an uprating order so that we get clarity as to Applicable Amounts for pensioners ?

    Will the default regs include the uprated allowances or will they too be subject to an impending uprating order even though they are laid after the 5th.

    If you are “making” your scheme before either of the regs are laid or before the uprating order how do you propose to deal with the uprating ?

    Given that the presentation suggests that schemes that don’t have the uprated allowances in might not be “compliant” for the purposes of transitional grant, this puts some further risk into the La’s decision making process.

    I’m getting increasingly worried about the other regs referred to around Admin and enforcement (D&A), fraud etc we haven’t even seen a draft yet.

    And finally Weekly Bin Collections !!!!!! £250m given to 85 authorities. e.g. £29m to Birmingham completely dwarfing the 10% reduction in CTR support. I’m so glad i don’t work for an authority that will be reinstating weekly bin collections and putting some folks CT up by £250 for the privilege.

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