Deadbeat Dads or a Deadbeat PM

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  • #38276
    John Boxall
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    See

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13831926

    So, exactly how do his governments changes to benefits help separated fathers maintain contact.

    :Sp |(

    Discuss!

    Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery. The blossom is blighted, the leaf is withered, the god of day goes down upon the dreary scene, and—and in short you are for ever floored.

    Wilkins Micawber, Ch12 David Copperfield

    #63329
    Lee Fearon
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    Cameron described how he had learned his values from his own father, Ian Cameron, who died last year aged 77. “From my father, I learned about responsibility. Seeing him get up before the crack of dawn to go and do a hard day’s work and not come back until late at night had a profound impact on me,” he said.

    Can’t help thinkimg that Mr Cameron (snr) would have done us all a favour if he’d worked that bit harder and left himself less time to procreate.

    #63330
    John Boxall
    Participant

    [quote=Lee Fearon]Can’t help thinkimg that Mr Cameron (snr) would have done us all a favour if he’d worked that bit harder and left himself less time to procreate.[/quote]

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    Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery. The blossom is blighted, the leaf is withered, the god of day goes down upon the dreary scene, and—and in short you are for ever floored.

    Wilkins Micawber, Ch12 David Copperfield

    #63335
    Andreas
    Participant

    [quote=Lee Fearon]Cameron described how he had learned his values from his own father… “Seeing him get up before the crack of dawn to go and do a hard day’s work and not come back until late at night had a profound impact on me,” he said.[/quote]

    So he didn’t want to be anything like his dad then :exmark:

    #63337
    Lee Fearon
    Participant

    Apparently, his dad was a stockbroker. So, quite why he was up at the crack of dawn and not back till late at night, is open to speculation.

    #63338
    John Boxall
    Participant

    I’m told that in the ‘pre big bang’ days Stockbroking was rather relaxed

    Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery. The blossom is blighted, the leaf is withered, the god of day goes down upon the dreary scene, and—and in short you are for ever floored.

    Wilkins Micawber, Ch12 David Copperfield

    #63341
    Andreas
    Participant

    [quote=Lee Fearon]Apparently, his dad was a stockbroker.[/quote]

    Sorry, I thought he said something about hard work :Sp

    #63346
    nickkeogh
    Participant

    I wish Cameron would make his mind up – he’s giving out mixed messages. Does he want me to get up at the crack of dawn, spend all day at work and come home at midnight or does he want my son to have a father who can spend time with him and be a noticeable part of the family unit instead of someone who only sees him at weekends????

    Having said that, haven’t got any time at the weekends either anymore as I’m too occupied with this Big Society thingy.

    #63350
    michaelh
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    I was out cycling yesterday and was passing through the inner city where I live – I saw a lady in her late 20’s or early 30’s on her hands and knees in the middle of a dual carriage way attempting to find something in her coat, which she was not wearing at the time. A taxi had stopped as it could not pass, the lady was shouting something at the taxi but I could not understand what. I was not shocked to see such behaviour, if I am honest, as the area I was cycling through is renowned for drug and alcohol abusers(sad I know), but it was Sunday afternoon and what did shock me was the thought that she may very well be a parent and in that context would you blame any man for not wanting to be around that sort of woman.

    What if that woman did indeed have children and that the dad had indeed left the household to escape the drug abusing/alcoholic partner, yet Mr Cameron says this ‘dad’ should be ‘stigmatised’….shocking, truely shocking…

    All us benefits advisors and administrators who have worked on the front line for years will know what it is like to have seen family’s break down – I have had men in front of me in tears as they have had to leave their partner for what ever reason and the children have had to stay with the partner.

    #63354
    Carol Meredith
    Participant

    And what about the separated father who wants to maintain contact but is aged under 35 and will not even have a separate bedroom he can share with his kids at the weekend?

    #63365
    Clive_Buckman
    Participant

    Needless to say, couples with large families will need to separate once the £26,000 pa benefit cap is introduced in 2013 to stand any chance of being able to feed and house their children. Presumably, as this change encourages families to spilt evenly, the children who go to live with their father will be the ones who benefit most from the PM’s wisdom. No doubbt Mr Cameron will enlighten us on how splitting families in this way helps the children living with their mother nearer to the implimentation date.

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