ETDs and sanction
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November 2, 2010 at 11:48 am #21914
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GuestWe have been getting quite a few ETDs recently where JSA has stopped, but no reason why is given. We’ve been suspending these and writing to the customer, and the customer has no idea the JSA has stopped.
Upon further discussions with the customer, we are finding many of these are caused by JSA sanctions (i.e. where they stop JSA for a fixed period because the customer doesn’t accept a job, gets kicked off a training course, etc).
Remembering the regulations only say we [i:a883f4fe00]may[/i:a883f4fe00] suspend, I don’t think it is reasonable to suspend in these cases. If the sanction is only for a short period (e.g. one or two weeks), it is unlikely they are being overpaid or conditions of entitlement are in doubt.
The problem we have is that we don’t know if the customer is being sanctioned, and quite often the customer doesn’t know yet either (we are pretty up to date with our ETDs). CIS doesn’t seem very clear in telling us this.
At the same time, if JSA has stopped and we don’t know why, it would not be good practice to leave these claims running.
Other than phoning JC+ for every ETD that tells us JSA has stopped, has anyone come up with any solutions to this problem, or a better way of working than we are currently doing?
Many thanks
November 2, 2010 at 3:23 pm #6046nolan1
ParticipantWherever possible phone your claimant, we need to know about their income and capital, not necessarily, the reason for no Jsa.
I agree there is no need to suspend in these cases but if the customer or dwp have not/cannot tell us their income and capital/what is going on, this may be a last resort.
November 5, 2010 at 9:52 am #6047rich
ParticipantThe Jobseeker’s Allowance (Sanctions for Failure to Attend) Regulations 2010 Statutory Instrument 2010/509 – Impact on Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit
1 These regulations provide for a new sanction in Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) from 6 April 2010 when a customer fails to attend for interview.
2 A significant minority of jobseekers fail, repeatedly, to attend appointments and interviews with Jobcentre Plus advisers or to sign on in time. The sanction will act as an important mechanism to encourage them to attend mandatory appointments and interviews, which are important in engaging and supporting jobseekers in job-search activity and finding sustained employment.
3 The sanction will be applied when a jobseeker fails to attend a JSA mandatory appointment or interview and despite making contact within five working days of the missed appointment is unable to give a good reason for non attendance. When a sanction is applied entitlement to JSA will continue but the benefit will not be payable for a fixed period of one week, or two weeks in subsequent instances of failing to attend during the same claim. Currently entitlement to JSA ceases in this situation and the jobseeker has to reclaim benefit thus creating an administrative burden constantly closing and re-opening claims. The regulations will ensure that jobseekers who are receiving passported Housing Benefit (HB) or Council Tax Benefit (CTB) will continue to do so without interruption when the sanction is applied.
4 If a jobseeker fails to contact the Jobcentre within five working days of the missed appointment, their entitlement to JSA will cease and the local authority (LA) will be notified accordingly.
5 The regulations make minor amendment to the HB and CTB regulations to cross-refer to the sanction in regulation 2 (interpretation). A cross-reference is also inserted into regulation 3(j) (circumstances in which discretionary housing payments may be made) of the Discretionary Financial Assistance Regulations 2001 to ensure that jobseekers cannot apply for discretionary housing payments just because their JSA has been sanctioned for a failure to attendNovember 5, 2010 at 9:55 am #6048rich
Participanti have done a flowchart on this to indentify when it is a sanction , let me have you email address if your interested
November 9, 2010 at 2:15 pm #6049gksmith
ParticipantHi Richard,
Could you send me a copy of your sanction flowchart.
Thanks very much 😀
November 10, 2010 at 9:24 am #6050kazzaj
ParticipantHi
Could you please send me a copy of your Sanction flowchart too. We would find it really useful.
Thanks
November 16, 2010 at 2:45 pm #6051Anonymous
GuestHi
Could you please send me a copy of your Sanction flowchart too. We would find it really useful.
Regards
December 7, 2010 at 3:12 pm #102073Anonymous
GuestHi Rich,
Would you be so awfully kind as to send a copy of your flowchart? We’ve started to get these claims in thick and fast for some reason and any or all help would be gratefully appreciated.
With regards
PaulDecember 15, 2010 at 5:36 pm #102262Kully Bains
ParticipantI am currently looking at the same issue, we continue to get ETD when CIS shows it could be a sanction. please can you also send me a copy of your flowchart.
my email is : kully.Bains@derby.gcsx.gov.uk
thank youDecember 23, 2010 at 8:12 am #102419Jules
ParticipantCould I possibly have a copy please?
December 23, 2010 at 8:59 am #102421maz
ParticipantDecember 23, 2010 at 9:07 am #102422craigworc
ParticipantJanuary 4, 2011 at 10:39 am #102495aimee
ParticipantI’d also like a copy of flowchat please! 🙂
January 4, 2011 at 2:34 pm #102507Rob Hawes1
ParticipantJanuary 4, 2011 at 2:42 pm #57373lkbennett
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