Terms & Conditions

[Joanne Ross]

I have a claim where a non-dep is starting work and he has been award the HBRO for 4 weeks after IS ending. Does anybody know how we deal with this – do we leave the IS in for the period and then change to earnings?

Cheers

[Anonymous]

Gut reaction is that he’s not in receipt of Housing Benefit so how can he have HB run on.

I suspect that someone has ticked the HB/CTB indicator box when first setting up the IS claim and now that someone else has come along and terminated the IS, this notification has been generated.

GIGO?

Happy to be corrected though

[markp]

GIGO?!

Do I know what I'm doing? The jury's out on that........................

[Anonymous]

Garbage In Garbage Out

[markp]

I see!

I must say that I thought HBRO’s could only be awarded where the claimant or partner satisfy conditions etc. therefore non dep’s don’t come into it.

I suppose the ETD doesn’t take into consideration that the IS/JSA claimant isn’t necessarily the HB/CTB claimant.

Do I know what I'm doing? The jury's out on that........................

[jamcon]

Joanne,

I’m assuming from your post what non-dep deduction you should make for the run on period and that your claimant is aged under 60.

Looking at Regulation 74, subsections (1) and (2) give the deductions which should be made if the non-dep is in remunerative work. Subsection (8) states that a non-dep aged under 25 and on IS/JSA(IB) has no deduction made in respect of them.

The way I see it, if a non-dep is aged over 25 and in remunerative work, then the appropriate deduction depending on their actual income should be made. If aged under 25, because of sub-section (8) there should be no deduction due to the fact that the non-dep is still receiving IS/JSA(IB).

Never had to think about this before, so I’m willing to be contradicted. Does seem a bit unfair.

[MissMoody]

yes the DWP only assess the qualifying conditions were they to be claiming HB/CTB. If they qualify then it is for us to implement the run on should an existing HB/CTB claim be in payment.

As we know, a run on cannot be awarded to a customer where there is no benefit run on with!

[Daz Webb]

I believe the regs state that HBRO’s/EPP’s are only payable where it’s the Claimant/Partner who have ceased to receive IS/JSAIB (and satisfy the relevant criteria).

So in the case of a Non-Dep I would say that no HBRO can be considered and the appropriate deduction be applied from the appropriate date after they have started work.

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