Name change to Council Tax REBATE

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  • #21716
    Anonymous
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    http://www.expolitix.com/legislation/legislation-details/newsarticle/council-tax-rebate-bill/

    I understand ministers are giving serious consideration to this option.Anybody think it will make a difference?

    #5734
    Anonymous
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    #5735
    Anonymous
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    #5736
    Kevin D
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    Wow! A name change. That really will solve ALL the difficulties associated with benefits….. *shakes head*

    #5737
    Anonymous
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    With genius ideas like this one, I’m starting to think the politicians must deserve their second home moat expenses.

    #5738
    Anonymous
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    …. and don’t forget the floating duck refuge. 😯

    #5739
    gshiels
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    Typical, I have just sent off a print request for 10,000 claim forms which should last us 9 months…….

    #5740
    Anonymous
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    Here’s a thought,looking at CTB separate benefit from HB.
    The new threshold for savings/capital in pensioner claims is £10,000 with the cap remaining at £16,000.So, the tariff income will range from £1.00 to £12 ( ie £1 for each £500 or part thereof).But when the 20% taper is applied the reduction in CTB associated with this will be quite small, ranging from 20pence to £2.40.
    Begs the question, is it worthwhile having a tariff income at all in CTB for pensioners.We are told that the biggest non-take up claimant category for CTB is for pensioners who are owner occupiers.Perhaps no longer having them declare, and LAs verify, savings/capital below £16,000 might mean the intrusions that put many off applying would be removed.
    Ah, I hear you say, wouldn’t that be unfair on pensioners who rent and depend on HB? Well many (all?) will also be claiming CTB so would enjoy this easement too.
    A bit radical but it will take more than the suggested name change to resolve the appalling rate of take up of CTB amongst pensioners.

    PS final stab at the link to the article referred to in my original post

    http://www.epolitix.com/legislation/legislation-details/newsarticle/council-tax-rebate-bill/

    #5741
    John Boxall
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    Didnt renaming work wonders for the public perception of a well known nuclear reprocessing plant?

    Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery. The blossom is blighted, the leaf is withered, the god of day goes down upon the dreary scene, and—and in short you are for ever floored.

    Wilkins Micawber, Ch12 David Copperfield

    #5742
    Anonymous
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    I don’t care what it’s called as long as people claim it. If calling it a rebate will remove the perceived “stigma” of claiming a benefit and encourage more pensioners to take it up, that’s fine by me. CTB take up amoung the over 60s isn’t as good as it should be.

    #5743
    Andreas
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    Three words… Second Adult Rebate.

    No stigma attached and everyone is falling over themselves to take advantage of it – not ❗

    Must be an election on the way…

    #5744
    Jon__Blackwell
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    I think the problem with this proposal is the implicit corollary : “You are a deserving pensioner so you get a rebate – not like those scr**ngers who claim benefits.”

    Politically, the braver thing(*) to do would be to tackle the torygraph/mail/express generated “stigma” head-on.

    * = probably-not-going-to-happen.

    #5745
    John Boxall
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    Perhaps we could call it ‘MP style expenses’ instead?

    Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery. The blossom is blighted, the leaf is withered, the god of day goes down upon the dreary scene, and—and in short you are for ever floored.

    Wilkins Micawber, Ch12 David Copperfield

    #5746
    Andreas
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    Due to negative public perception and poor uptake, maybe the government will introduce an MP-only 100% Rebate scheme to cover their expenses 😉

    I mean, haven’t you seen the cost of second homes these days 😯 Especially when you have family to support as well 😆

    #5747
    Anonymous
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    Now, wait a minute – how do they know people are entitled to benefit who aren’t claiming it so haven’t proved they’re entitled?

    So they ask them how much they’ve got to live on, and the pensioner can see the interviewer wants to hear they’re poor, so they say they’re poorer than they are. Then the interviewer whips out a claim form and the next thing we know is – we’ve got yet another fraudulent pensioner claim!

    Somebody should stand up for people’s right to not claim benefits!

    :25:

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