The need for a further petition on Europe

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    Anonymous
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    As somone wrote in my paper “We haven’t had a referendum on Magna Carta or the Bill of Rights recently”. I am enjoying this spectacle of the Government squirming at the end of a rope. Having introduced the completely farcical idea of populist petitions they now have to explain that, actually, when only 100,000 people in a country of 46 million voters want something done it doesn’t mean that we will actually do it, even though we have asked you to believe that we will.

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    What’s significant, in my view, about this is that IDS will not be flavour of the month with David Cameron and George Osborne after his stand on this issue and may find it hard to repel any further cuts in DWP spending and/or rely on their support to progress his Welfare Reform agenda.

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    keith buckley
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    To be honest I doubt Iain Duncan Smith cares.

    The whole idea of Universal Credit is that he hopes this is his legacy for which he will be remembered in the future as the great reformer ……

    …… like the man who brought in the Welfare state or the man who brought in the NHS.

    What he doesn’t get is when it goes horribly horribly wrong (and we all know it will) that is his place in history

    #112401
    Kay_Tade
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    [quote=keith buckley]To be honest I doubt Iain Duncan Smith cares[/quote]

    Oh, he does, in a very strange way. His place in history? Water tight….. 🙂

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    Derrick
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    #112453
    keith buckley
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    what is really scary I was watching Question Time and Duncan Smith actually said that he was in Government to reform the Welfare State.

    #112462
    Lee Fearon
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    “No, I don’t have an ambition – I came into government for one reason and one reason only, which is to try and reform welfare and change society, that is my purpose for being here,” he said

    Keith

    I saw it too. Very scary. I thought the way he was going about it, it was just a hobby. You know, the sort of thing he might turn to for a couple of hours on a rainy Sunday afternoon when he had nothing else to do.

    But no, turns out it’s his prime objective and sole rationale for accepting a cabinet post.

    Difficult to imagine the sort of fiasco that’d ensue if he wasn’t giving it his full attention.

    #112490
    keith buckley
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    This would appear to be the problem

    IDS has decided to change society to how he decrees society should be and intends to try and use welfare reform as his method of doing this.

    In his world everyone works, every family is two parents and everyone is connected to the world wide web.

    I just don’t think that anyone working under him has had the guts to tell him it won’t work ……yet

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