Non-dep receiving Pension credits

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  • #20119
    Derrick
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    I beliveve that if a non-dep is in receipt of Pension Credit (GC or SC) that no non-dep deduction applies for CTB(unless in remunerative work).

    If the claimant is ‘working age’ and the non-dep has claimed PC, which regs apply?

    ‘Working age’ regs which means claimant should tell us within 1 calendar month of PC award or ‘elderly’ regs which means we can add PC from October 03, regardless of when non-dep was notified and when claimant informed LA?? (up to October 04)

    :15:

    #2085
    Anonymous
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    if claimant is not a pensioner, then claim (and any changes) should be treated under “standard” working age regs.

    #2086
    Julian Hobson
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    Just looked at this again and in reg 3 and 4 of the Misc amendment regs remunerative work is removed for those on Pension credit by virtue of an addition to reg 4(5) therefore pension credit recipients would never be classed as remunerative work for the purposes of NON Dep Deductions Which might now clarify the changes to reg 63 HB and 52 CTB hence £7.40 for HB and £0.00 for CTB.

    BUT does the change to reg 4(5) scupper the more advantageous deduction for lone parents in work of more than 16 hours ie £25.00

    #2087
    Derrick
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    So who are the non-deps referred to in HB reg 63 (1)(b) and CTB 52(1)(b) ??

    Is it just because remunerative work is not taken in when calculating SC??

    Will we ever know anyway,

    [url]https://hbinfo.org/menu2/pchbregs/063.shtml[/url]

    Does the definition of remunerative work HB reg 4(5) only apply to claimants??

    ❓ in a state of confusion ❓

    #2088
    Anonymous
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    The “new” Reg 63(1)(b) for pensioners and its CTB sidekick are yesterday’s news. You can’t take your eye off the ball for a nanosecond with this stuff.

    The latest position (at least it was when I last looked) is in this very recent thread:

    https://hbinfo.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=737

    I’m just pondering the consequences of the bug that Julian has found. Should be OK for LP earnings disregard, because that applies to earnings irrespective of the number of hours worked (unless you want to argue that you cannot have “remuneration” from work that isn’t “remunerative”, in which case it isn’t earnings – that would be fun). But child care disregard would be a problem I think. You do have some sympathy for the people trying to tie down all the consequential amendments when you discover things like this.

    #2089
    Julian Hobson
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    It does move quickly, I corrected myself on the earnings/remunerative argument but did put the child care argument to DWP, however they refer me to:

    regs 2(3) and 2(7) of The HB and CTB (State Pension Credit and Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2003 (SI 2003/2275). which mean that the definition in 4(5) is disapplied for the purposes of the disregards.

    SIMPLIFICATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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