PIP and its impact

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  • #44739
    Julian Hobson
    Participant

    I don't know if this is a good or bad thing. Looks like PIP awards (regardless of components) will mean no deduction for Non deps under the prescribed and default CTR regs. This appears to also be the case for Hb going forward. Without looking at how PIP works in detail i don't knowe if this is likely to increase the numbers where no non dep charge (in the context of decreasing numbers overall)  or not.

    page 34 and 36 http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/pip-detailed-design-response.pdf

    #126162
    Anonymous
    Guest

    It’s no different to how DLA works now

    #126163
    Derrick
    Participant

    http://www.dwp.gov.uk/newsroom/ministers-speeches/2012/13-12-12.shtml

    ‘By October 2015 we estimate we will have reassessed 560,000 claimants.

    Of these 160,000 will get a reduced award and 170,000 will get no award. However 230,000 will get the same support or more support’

    #126165
    Andy Thurman
    Keymaster

    [quote=Derrick]’By October 2015 we estimate we will have reassessed 560,000 claimants.

    Of these 160,000 will get a reduced award and 170,000 will get no award. However 230,000 will get the same support or more support’[/quote]

    Somewhat contradicts the recent assurances that the disabled are being protected from the welfare cuts.

    As with ESA and IB, it would be foolish to deny that their are some fraudsters/”lead swingers” in the entire DLA caseload – I’ve come across one or two myself – but 30% of them? With a further similar proportion who’ve been exaggerating their illness?

    #126167
    Andy Thurman
    Keymaster

    I’m going to have to properly get my head around this PIP stuff because I’m starting to get very confused. Two things for now:
    1. What is actually happening with U16’s? I had heard there was no new equivalent but this response document suggests on the one hand that DLA will continue for children then later confirms that an award of a PIP would trigger the disabled child premium?? Anyone point me to something more clear?
    2. Have there been any draft amending regs yet?

    As for Julian’s original thought – the inclusion of the mobility part in the non-dep rules will increase the opportunity for that to apply but the quote added by Derrick suggests it will actually do so less as there will be fewer awards. The reduction to two bands for the care part is a particular unknown re the premiums as it depends whether middle rate DLA recipients go ‘up or down’ how that will play out!

    #126168
    Kay_Tade
    Participant

    May find this handy, Andy, see the link to “A quick Guide”.

    http://www.dwp.gov.uk/policy/disability/personal-independence-payment/information-for-advisers/

    #126394
    bod
    Participant

    PIP assessments to be delayed: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20709623

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