Prosecuted and Imprisoned

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  • #22800
    Julian Hobson
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    Can’t give too much detail obviously but, what might you do here.

    IF an LA succesfully prosecuted someone for benefit fraud, it being shown that he had received both I/S and CTB that he was not entitled to AND the court decided that his agreed settlement be the capital he currently had of around £250,000 plus a prison sentence (to be extended if the £250,000 was not repaid by feb 2007).

    How would you treat a subsequent CTB claim from his partner, suggesting they had no income or capital ?

    #9634
    Kevin D
    Participant

    Somewhat sceptically…..

    #9635
    markp
    Participant

    With a question (for starters) – can they get at the capital if yes then with more requests for evidence of what they can get.

    Do I know what I'm doing? The jury's out on that........................

    #9636
    Anonymous
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    If I understand the gentleman (ahem) is no longer on the scene and I would imagine will be away for a while, so no longer part of the assessment.
    You would therefore have to decide if the capital was jointly held, and then if the present claimant had access, which may be difficult to prove.
    Perhaps, as Kevin and Mark have said, somewhat sceptically with a lot of questions? 😉

    #9637
    petedavies
    Participant

    I think you can treat the partner as owning the capital whether or not it is in the partner’s name. Whilst possibly not being treated as a member of the household, he is still her partner (N.B: did the assessment of capital include the home?).

    Presumably there has been a claim for a passport benefit? If it has been awarded then I think your hands are pretty much tied – I would suspect that this would have been investigated leaving you little or no room to make your own decision – I do not think you could use Hamilton to go against if there has been an investigation.

    If not:

    As far as the amount of capital is concerned has the settlement figure been paid? If not then I think that if the Court is satisfied with the figure you (and TS) should be as well – ask for proof where the capital has gone. I do not think you could use a notional figure – the main purpose of disposal would be to avoid the settlement rather than claiming CTB

    If it has been paid I think it is just a matter of going through everything with a fine-tooth comb. Given past history I do believe that you can reasonably expect a higher standard of evidence than would normally be expected (although this would have to be limited ‘cos it was not your current claimant who was convicted). It is probably worth getting another experian check run. Also do a visit – if the standard of living seems way too high given the declared income you can probably make a decision on that basis, especially if you have evidence to suggest that your current claimant knew what was going on.

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