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[traceyf]

Can anyone confirm the following:

1. Is self contained accomodation, that which shares one of the following or all of the following – kitchen, bathroom & toilet. (I have received conflicting information on this)

2. Can we pay Housing Benefit to a customer who is accomodated on a temporary basis in commercial property ie a local hotel or guest house

3. Should Local Authority accomodation which is used soley for the purpose of housing homeless people be held outside the HRA account if there has been no license agreement drawn up between the homeless section and the housing section

Hope the above makes sense – any advice would be appreciated

[Anonymous]

I take it you are talking about temporary accommodation subsidy:

1. Accommodation is self contained if the clt’s household is not required to share one or more of the following – kitchen; bathroom; toilet

2. Yes, but if they are not there as homeless referrals but have made their own arrangements they are RO referral claims if meals provided or LHA if not. If there as homeless (LA is LL) they are LANHRA claims

3. Yes. If it’s LA accommodation why would they need a licence with themselves?

[traceyf]

As regards to question 1 – If a customer has their own bedroom with en suite bathroom facilities and shared use of a kitchen Is this classed as self contained.

If a customer lives in Bed & Breakfast accomodation, they have en suite bathroom facilities but no access to kitchen Is this self contained

[Anonymous]

No and No in my view.

[traceyf]

further to the above can I ask advice on the following:

Should accomodation owned by the Local Authority, and used by the Homeless Section, be classed as HRA homeless claims or non HRA. Please note this accomodation is not used “soley” for the use of homeless applicants and can be converted back to mainstream lets if required

Thanks

[Andy Thurman]

Simply HRA to the last one (depending on system, entering as HRA homeless will throw a spanner in the subsdiy calc). This is subject to the caveat that these properties are within the HRA. Some councils own other property which, if rented out and HB paid, would fall in cell 023.

[Anonymous]

Andy, I disagree. We own a hostel and it is outside the HRA. Surely it is the use to which the accommodation is put which is important. If homeless families are being housed there it is not being used for general housing but to discharge a separate duty, ergo non HRA

[Andy Thurman]

[quote=Chris Dring]Andy, I disagree. We own a hostel and it is outside the HRA. Surely it is the use to which the accommodation is put which is important. If homeless families are being housed there it is not being used for general housing but to discharge a separate duty, ergo non HRA[/quote]

Chris,
I did add the caveat that there may be properties owned by an LA that are not HRA – your example is one of the types I referred to that is cell 023 non-HRA.

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