UC delay?

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    chris harvey

    At a software supplier user group yesterday a delegate mentioned that UC will only be rolled out from October 2013 in "selected areas" and the HB migration had been extended to 2020. Apparently the information had come from a CIPFA seminar.

    Bearing in mind the recent HB Direct UC Edition which indicates everything is hunky dory and on time, I am wondering if there is any truth in this. Anyone heard anything??


    This is only my opinion, and not based on anything i may have learned in the last 6 months, but this quite possible.

    As you know the pathfinder exercise starts in the North West in April 2013, with national roll out due Oct 2013. Essentially UC will just be JSAIB by another name. Adding more claimant groups and more complex functionality won’t occur until Feb 2014, and will probably be tried out in the pathfinder areas first before being rolled out to the ret of the country.

    As to migration being delayed until 2020, i think everyone working on UC knew/ knows how difficult the original timescales are to achieve, so i wouldn’t be at all surprised if this proves to be true – but you won’t get anything official out of the DWP.


    Without wishing to draw you into any indiscretions Jerry….

    Are you aware of when HB is planned to be moved, the running order of when different benefits will be moved over, as a delay in one due to techinical issues may delay the rest, and when RTI PAYE is expected to link into UC?

    Sorry lots of questions πŸ™‚


    I have seen various migration strategy documents, Iain, but in truth they’re only as good as the day they are printed and it would be wrong of me to give out dates based on what i have seen. Migration strategy is very much a living organism, i think the priority at the moment is just to get UC up and running ‘on time’.

    I wasn’t involved with RTI, but from what i have heard “it will be delivered on time and on budget”… πŸ˜‰


    Re: Oct 2013 – If “selected areas” means just seven out of the thirty-seven DWP districts from October 2013 then yes.

    (see e.g. http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/touchbase-ezine-june-2012.pdf )

    Re: Migration extended to 2020 – I don’t know but I’ve heard that there were strong hints from a DWP speaker at a HBInfo conference that a complete migration from HB by 2017 is very unlikely.



    Hi Jerry,

    If this first iteration of UC will effectively be a re-badged JSAIB, do you know if this means that it will initially continue to be paid fortnightly?


    No, it’ll be on its own separate platform from JSAPS, so will follow the monthly model with some potential exceptions.

    John Boxall


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