Universal Credit Roll Out – the consequences
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October 2, 2017 at 7:39 am #162558
John Boxall
Participanthttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/01/david-gauke-universal-credit-rollout-will-go-ahead
Lets wait and see……………………..
Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery. The blossom is blighted, the leaf is withered, the god of day goes down upon the dreary scene, and—and in short you are for ever floored.
Wilkins Micawber, Ch12 David Copperfield
October 2, 2017 at 7:43 am #162559John Boxall
Participanthttps://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/oct/02/heidi-allen-tory-mp-theresa-may-universal-credit
Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery. The blossom is blighted, the leaf is withered, the god of day goes down upon the dreary scene, and—and in short you are for ever floored.
Wilkins Micawber, Ch12 David Copperfield
October 2, 2017 at 10:04 am #162562Anonymous
GuestDWP have just reissued stats on UC payment timeliness & UC Advance, with figures for July.
My guess we're going to be told the answer to all of UC's problems is UC Advances….
Just like the answer to everything else is DHPs.
David Guauke coming up at conference in next few minutes – it'll be on iplayer if you can stand the excitement http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcparliament#
October 2, 2017 at 12:04 pm #162563RobBox
ParticipantJust had letter to CEO's……..there will be no delay.
October 2, 2017 at 12:08 pm #162564simonh
ParticipantNo mention of any changes for emergency accommodation either.
October 2, 2017 at 12:59 pm #162568pamrichardson
ParticipantAnd no admission of there being anything really wrong with UC either!!!…very much hitting back at the recent criticisms…whilst failing to acknowledge all the other fundamental failings of UC that are still unresolved years after being identified. Oh and they are 'working' on solutions for other things so that is absoluteley fine…
October 2, 2017 at 1:06 pm #162569John Boxall
ParticipantJust wait until the potential post Brexit economic upset gets factored into it all………………
Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery. The blossom is blighted, the leaf is withered, the god of day goes down upon the dreary scene, and—and in short you are for ever floored.
Wilkins Micawber, Ch12 David Copperfield
October 2, 2017 at 1:58 pm #162570pamrichardson
ParticipantLooking at some of the recent stats –
48% of new claims to full service UC get an advance payment – nearly the norm and not the exception.
76% of full service new claims were paid in full and on time with 85% getting some payment on time. PDT should go in and tell them how to do it quicker and better!
October 2, 2017 at 2:29 pm #162571RobBox
ParticipantProblem is that "on time" is still a long time.
October 2, 2017 at 3:44 pm #162573deh050
ParticipantLetter from Neil Couling to CEOs -The problems are caused by every one except DWP i.e. ; Landlords charging policies, Existing arrears Claimants not claiming their housing costs , landlords and claimants giving different rent figure
LAs Can help by Ensuring HB interest markers on CIS should be recorded correctly so they are looking at automating it
and under the paragraph How LA's can help landlords to prepare it seems to imply we just need to explain to landlord that they ' have a cash flow problem not total income issue so with good planning …landlords can manage the effect
They seem to think the Landlord Potal will be the answer for Social sector landlords but don't appear to have plans to help landlords in the private sector
October 2, 2017 at 9:47 pm #162578peterdelamothe
KeymasterYes so advances are the answer and off it goes. The trouble is that the advances are usually spent on living and not on the rent and then it gets taken back. So the rent suffers. Yes indeed it is the landlord / councils fault and those sneaky food banks..,,
October 2, 2017 at 9:48 pm #162579peterdelamothe
KeymasterIncidentally exempt accommodation was supposed to have ended today….,
October 3, 2017 at 8:25 am #162584Julian Hobson
ParticipantWhat is "Local Council Tax Credit" ?
October 3, 2017 at 8:48 am #162585Stalbansbenefits
ParticipantThe example given in annexe 1 is a bit patronising.
'The total stream of UC payments equals the total stream of rent liabilities'.
I know it is talking about an exisiting UC claimant moving to a new property, but a new UC claimant in an existing property is going to have 7 waiting days, so their UC payments aren't going to meet their rent liability in full.
'The payment non-compliance impact is far more substantial'.
Isn't that what landlords are most concerned about? Does this letter do anything to address this?
October 3, 2017 at 9:20 am #162586Julian Hobson
ParticipantHas anyone out there done a comparison between the Legacy benefit claimant and the UC claimant with the same set of circumstances over time ?
I'd really like to see each week set out so that we can truely see the real difference. It would also be useful to compare the weekly rent payer under HB and UC with the Calendar monthly rent payer under HB and UC.
I tried to do this a while back over a 6 year period to pick up the effect of a leap year but got bogged down – anyone fancy a go ?
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