vowed to bring the curtain down on the era of vast government IT projects

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  • #38634
    simon
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14314935

    Obviously a computer system intergrating both the tax and welfare system is a simple matter that can be dealt with by “more small and medium-sized IT suppliers”

    #109280
    Anonymous
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/nhs-pulls-the-plug-on-its-11bn-it-system-2330906.html

    Do you think that there is someone somewhere in government thinking “is this Universal Credit thingy going to work”?

    #109282
    Kay_Tade
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    [quote=Scottca]Do you think that there is someone somewhere in government thinking?????[/quote]

    😀 , Sorry no.

    #109283
    David
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    I’ve e-mailed Margaret Hodge, chair of the Public Accounts Committee regarding the IT project necessary for UC. I’ll let you know if I get a meaningful reply.

    #109293
    Anonymous
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    [quote=Scottca]http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/nhs-pulls-the-plug-on-its-11bn-it-system-2330906.html

    Do you think that there is someone somewhere in government thinking “is this Universal Credit thingy going to work”?[/quote]

    The Universal Credit system will be easy. It will be 2 systems running side by side :bigsmile: :bigsmile:

    #109304
    Anonymous
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    Hi Negan,

    Closer to 4 systems working together. There will be the online PAYE frontend interfacing into HMRC’s back office system which will then feed into a payments systems. The payments system will also need DWP info feeding into from their back office system.

    All of these need to be synchronised so an in work claimant can recieve their payment.

    These are refered to as moderate IT changes…

    Actually it has just occurred to me that the DWP will need a further system to deal with the HB element of UC, if they carry on with their plan.

    #109305
    Anonymous
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    Does anyone else remember claimants super-gluing themselves to HMRC’s desks when the tax credits IT system didn’t work when tax credits went live?

    And that was just ONE IT system. 😉

    #109306
    michaelh
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    What about all the other information holding systems that Local Authorities use to cross check information provided by clmt’s and LL’s???? Let us not forget that if HB is swallowed up within UC these cross checking systems would be vital to ensure that any housing costs are met only where sufficient checks have been made.

    In our LA we use, Council Tax systems, licensing records, elecoral register etc on a daily basis to verify information given by prospective HB clmts…..

    It is a worry…. :~

    #109308
    nickkeogh
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    It’ll be like the programme “The Code” that was on last night.

    What effectively happens is that you have loads of separate spherical bubbles (DWP, HB, TC etc.) and when you put them all together to form one unit they instinctively know how to re-arrange themselves into the most efficient shape within which to exist and it absolutely works this way 100% of the time, without fail.

    #109334
    Anonymous
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    So for ‘hexagon’ read ‘Universal Credit’,Nick.

    #109335
    nickkeogh
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    The DWP are certainly making it sound that simple aren’t they Peem. I think the intention is the hexagon but the end result will be more like the trees at the end of the programme, a gazillion never-ending branches all tentatively attached to one another but never quite connecting.

    #109337
    Anonymous
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    What channel was The Code on? Clearly I’m going to have to watch it …. 🙂

    #109339
    nickkeogh
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    BBC2 Wednesday nights at 9 o’clock. 3-part series – last one is next week. I’m pretty sure parts 1 and 2 will be on BBC i-player. Fascinating stuff even if large parts of it did go right over my head (and by large parts of it I refer to the bits between the opening titles and the closing credits).

    #109440
    bulledl
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    Nick, Do you mean in a similar fashion to large parts of the complexity of UC going over the heads of certain Government Ministers???? :bigsmile: 😉

    #109451
    nickkeogh
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    Ye of little faith Linda. It’s all going swimmingly. Just keep thinking “Hexagon”.

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