Whatever happened to Two Strikes?

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  • #19667
    Anonymous
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    And if you have, how was it for you?

    #524
    Anonymous
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    Two strikes has obviously been a great deterrent, then…(ahem)

    #525
    Anonymous
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    Maybe it’s a bit early to judge two strikes? When did the legislation come in, November 02 was it? You would have to be really dishonest and really, really stupid to have accumulated two strikes since then. Give it time.

    [PS just looked it up, it was April 02]

    #526
    Anonymous
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    Given the time limits involved, I think someone would have to be “really dishonest and really, really stupid” to fall foul of two strikes no matter how long we give it.

    #527
    Trevor Kenward
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    Can I resurrect this topic.
    Just had our first ‘two strikes’.
    Anyone else out there had one and care to share?

    #528
    Anonymous
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    Congratulations, Trevor, you seem to have found the first “really dishonest and really, really stupid” claimant in Britain…

    #529
    Anonymous
    Guest

    None here to date….

    Give us some details then.

    #530
    Anonymous
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    Not heard of any down here yet – however next week I am conducting an IUC with a lady who we cautioned two years ago and now it seems she has not told us of her Tax Credit Award going back to the end of 2004.

    So perhaps a candidate?

    Andrew

    #531
    Neil Adamson
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    Work at the same Authority as Mr K so this is the same case but when we made enquiries we were told there were over 200 since it was brought in so somebody out there must have had one?

    #532
    Anonymous
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    Andrew: No, not unless she was “convicted in proceedings” – see s7(1) and (9) of the Social Security Fraud Act 2001.

    OK, maybe I was being over-frivolous when I commented on this in 2004, but the serious point I was making was that this mechanism only applies if you are prosecuted in the courts and convicted twice for social security offences, the second offence being committed within three years of the first conviction. Cautions aren’t enough. In slightly more temperate language this time, it strikes me (oh, come on …) that this sort of behaviour is foolish or arrogant.

    #533
    Anonymous
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    Peter

    Thanks shows what I know! I thought afterwards um perhaps I should look it up! Mind you I am not sure even as a fraud investigator that I am completley happy with the notion, each case on its merits I say.

    #534
    jbj
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    We might be doing one soon
    we have prosecuted and she got a 2 year suspended sentance and guess what we are doing her again for the same thing.

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